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INTERVIEW 1\/9\/14\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
After the show I had a chance to have a chat with Ash Wednesday, Clara Bizna$$ \u00a0and Lil\u2019 T (We hoped to do the interview in the bathroom, but it was just too tiny for all four of us to squish in. We settled for the streets of New York). Here is what they had to say.<\/p>\n
AF: How did the name Hand Job Academy come to be?<\/b><\/p>\n
Clara Bizna$$: The official story is that I was hooking up with some dude…\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday: A loser.<\/em><\/p>\nLil’ T: A grease nugget.<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: Well Anyways, I was having casual encounters with this person. I was at his house and my phone was broken. I had to check my e-mail for something, so I went on his computer. You know how when you go online on safari or whatever and it shows top sites? Well sometimes it’s porn and there was a porn site called “Hand Job Academy.” So I told them about it and it stuck.<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday: But the name don’t mean nothing anymore.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: Names just become transparent<\/em>.<\/p>\nAF: Your music contains a lot of parody. Why did you choose hip-hop as your medium? Is it because of the existing misogyny in hip-hop culture?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
Lil\u2019 T – I feel like we chose hip-hop before doing parodies and making it comedic. We’re not comedians at all. We would never be able to do stand up and we don’t really consider ourselves comedians, but when we get together, and say if we have a problem or something, we’re laughing and we’re just poking fun at shit. It’s just fun to us, we just try to have fun with it.<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday- I love hip-hop, I love rap music and I’ve always loved it, but I never thought that I would do it or could do it because I’m a girl. I don’t really know if it’s because I’m a girl, but I never got into it myself. I never saw anyone like me doing it, that looked like me doing it, and then me and Clara Bizna$$ \u00a0were at this party and this guy started beat boxing. We just started rapping rhymes, freestyling. We got together and started doing it in private. We were like, \u201cthis is really fun,\u201d and that’s how it started.<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$ – When I write stuff on my own for things it’s really emo poetry.<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T- \u00a0Yeah, me too.<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday- Taylor Swift. \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$ – Our intention is not to be like the lonely island. I really want to be a musician and have this be serious. It just so happens that we book a lot of comedy shows because people want the name \u201cHand Job Academy\u201d on their flier. We\u2019ve had a lot of good opportunities because of that, we’ve opened up for like big comedians and we’ve been on public access shows and stuff, but first and foremost we’re musicians. It just so happens that we’re having a good time, and I think a lot of rap artists are like that. A lot of rap artists have punchlines.<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T- \u00a0It all really started as fun, until one video just kind of blew up and it was just like oh, what do we do now?<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: \u00a0Let\u2019s get a manager and go on tour… maybe.<\/em><\/p>\nAF: What was the inspiration behind \u201cShark Week?\u201d Why do you think that periods are so taboo?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
Ash Wednesday: I\u2019ll let Clara Bizna$$ \u00a0take this one.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: This was one of the first songs that we wrote together. It\u2019s been bouncing around in our heads for a while and we performed it with different beats but it really only solidified now. \u00a0There was a piece in Salon about Petra Collins, who did that shirt for American Apparel where it’s a masturbating woman’s vagina that’s bleeding, and so there has been a lot of like period stuff in art lately… but why periods? I don\u2019t know, it’s universal. For me I always write about pop culture and so my verses cram as many pop cultural references in there as possible. I try to hit them all. Everything having to do with blood, gore, murder and gnarliness. Everyone can relate to it. I think that’s why it got a lot of attention, because it’s universal.<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday: I think that’s really great, it\u2019s what I would say.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAF: Why do you think that it is important to discuss things that some people might be uncomfortable with?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
Lil\u2019 T: \u00a0I direct all the videos, and come up with all the visuals. My style before I was doing videos for them was just to be as inappropriate and have as much shock factor as possible. I did a film before we were even a band, and there was this scene with just popping big huge boils. It grabbed people’s attention. People were like, \u201cwhat the fuck is this?\u201d That’s kind of what I was going for in \u201cShark Week\u201d too. Especially the scene where we lined up all the girls and they’re shaking their butts and It\u2019s like, blood! How are people going to react to this?\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$ : To touch on the earlier topic of the misogyny, with \u201cShark Week,\u201d our friend and sometimes DJ was like, \u201cthis looks like Terry Richardson, but like done by girls.\u201d With the girls sort of shaking their butts “un-twerkingly” it’s almost like, unintentionally, (I don\u2019t know if it was your intention as the director) we poked fun at the whole twerking thing. \u00a0We shot it before that came out (before the Miley thing came out), but we’re not sexily twerking, we’re wearing grandma panties. There is nothing sexy about it, but I think that there is something subversive, whether it’s intentional or not. \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: I didn’t want to make it sexy, because it’s not.<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: Right, it subverts that sort of ladies mounting their asses in music videos, you know? But not in a Lilly Allen kind of way, because that shit was wack.<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: \u00a0I was also playing on the typical rap thing where I\u2019m in the pool, smoking a cigar with all these ladies around me, but I\u2019m some queer! Acting like Jay-z, some little boy.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAF: In \u201cPop (Tumblr Bitches),\u201d you parody people who sexualize themselves through social media for online attention. What was your inspiration for this? \u00a0\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
Ash Wednesday: \u00a0That was exactly our inspiration.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: Brooke Candy.<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday: Well yeah, Brooke Candy- \u00a0I get really jealous of girls that I see. I don’t even know them. I never met them, but their pictures look very sexy, and I\u2019m like \u201cdamn.\u201d This is what dudes are looking at and liking online. This is getting a lot of attention.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: There\u2019s a whole new style coming out of it.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday: It\u2019s tacky.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: Very \u201890s.<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: \u00a0It\u2019s tacky- kind of playing on the \u201890s. They literally call it \u201ctumblr.\u201d Some girls dress \u201ctumblr,\u201d it’s literally a word now. So we got a stylist who had similar looking clothes. I was wearing some oversized, palm tree, beach looking ass tee, she was wearing sequined dresses.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: In that song I was talking about my insecurities like, \u201cYeah I am, no I\u2019m not, you know?\u201d I\u2019m giving you my bodily dimensions and then I\u2019m like, “Oh I\u2019m like this.\u201d I\u2019m again talking about celebrities and name dropping. People think that Khloe Kardashian is abhorrent, the fat one and the ugly one, but I think she’s the sexiest one and the nicest one. Now I\u2019m on a tangent. Okay, next question.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAF: What are your definitions of feminism and how do they shape Hand Job Academy?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
Ash Wednesday: I think i’m a humanist. I believe in human equality and human compassion. I don’t know, there’s so much talk swirling around about feminism. A lot of the attention that we get is because we’re female. That’s cool, we’ll take attention and stuff but there aren’t dudes being interviewed because they’re dudes, you know? \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: Thank you.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAsh Wednesday: When a dude is sexualizing a woman in a song or even himself people aren’t like, \u201cthat was very sexy,\u201d but when we do it, they are like, \u201cthat was really sexy and taboo.\u201d I mean I love men, and I love women, so, I try not to discriminate between the two.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: I’m completely 1000% a feminist. I grew up on Bust Magazine, and Bitch Magazine, riot grrrl. There’s this website, \u201camiafuckingfeminist.com\u201d and they ask the question, \u201cdo you believe in equality?\u201d and if you don’t believe in the equality of men and women then you’re not and if you do then you are. I think most people can say that they do. Thank god for Beyonce. Here we have a woman of color admitting, saying out loud, \u201cI\u2019m a feminist.\u201d She as an artist has the prerogative to talk about Tina Turner getting beaten up. A lot of people had problems with that but I think as an artist you can kind of say whatever you want. For me, art comes before politics. Art overrides politics. A lot of pop stars are really wishy washy about it (Katy Perry, Lady Gaga). “Oh I love men, I\u2019m not a feminist” No! I believe very strongly about it obviously. \u00a0I am absolutely completely feminist and anybody who commits to that I commend and applaud. \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: I think there are a lot of stereotypes in traditional hip hop and what your place in society is. What some men can do on videos would not be seen as gross. With \u201cShark Week,\u201d \u00a0I read the comments. \u201cShark Week\u201d was on Manrepeller- that’s a pretty feminist blog right?\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: It\u2019s fashiony<\/em><\/p>\nLil\u2019 T: It\u2019s fashiony, whatever, but there were some girls on there that were like, \u201cthis is so gross, they shouldn\u2019t be doing something like this.\u201d I feel like there are some things that a man can do on a video that, you know if a woman did the same things it would be gross.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: There is still absolutely a double standard. We had a write-up recently in LA Weekly, and what I liked about the author was that he didn’t once say that we were females. He just said, \u201cthis rap group is about to blow up, is about to be controversial.\u201d He didn’t ever mention that we’re females. To touch on what Ashley just said, most of the time, we get \u201cfemale rap group.\u201d If somebody asks me, \u201care you in a band?\u201d or, if i say I\u2019m in a band, they are like, \u201coh is it a girl band?\u201d Get the fuck out of here! I don’t ask a white man in a band, \u201coh there are four white men in a band, do you sound like nsync?\u201d What the fuck. No, they probably sound like My Bloody Valentine or whatever. I was in a rock group before and we would be loading in and people would be like, “do you sould like Sleater Kinney?” and I\u2019m like, \u201cI wish I sounded like Janet Weiss, I love Sleater Kinney, but no, we don’t sound like Sleater Kinney.\u201d \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nAF: What\u2019s next for Hand Job Academy? \u00a0\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n
Meg: We\u2019re working on an EP right now. We’ve just been releasing singles but we want to release something that’s more in a package. So we’re working on probably getting five songs out there in March. I would say February, but probably not. We\u2019re working on packaging it up. Packaging some songs up and releasing them all at the same time. We want to do touring, there’s an issue of money.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nClara Bizna$$: Yeah, we want to start playing shows out of town.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\nThanks so much for taking the time to speak with us, ladies! We’ll catch you next week at Trash Bar. \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n <\/p>\n